"What makes a healthy relationship? Two healthy people that come together as independent people and then evolve as partners.” Justin and Isley are two Long Island badasses who have been married for 45 years! Their arguments have changed in many ways – Isley is now retired, the kids are grown up, and their arguing has evolved the way they have evolved as people. Justin is a therapist so we get a lot of real solid actual advice instead of the ramblings of some crazy single chick! We talk about the five stages of marriage (hint: if you get to stage four, you’re gonna go the distance), and the importance of working on your relationship by working on yourself. Justin and Isley are Rachel's parents! Check out their episode to see how Rachel and Matt are similar and different from Justin and Isley.
Kim and Ben are engaged! This episode is bookended by the story of their elaborate proposal (on stage at the Fonda, where Kim works as a bartender!). Kim is a brassy New York broad and Ben is literally a champion debater, so they know what they’re talking about here. Kim is fully able to ice someone out if she’s mad at them, and Ben won’t let her do it. A lot of fights come from the fact that Kim is an optimistic, fearless, and possibly magically lucky person…?? And Ben is the opposite. So their different worldviews cause some conflict – we really dig into a fight about handling raw chicken. They both agree that the most important part of a fight is the communication afterwards – they do NOT agree about who is a more dangerous driver. So for the first time ever on Honey, we call in a witness to settle the thing.
Ashley and Mike are MARRIED PEOPLE!!! They have been together for 11 1/2 years! Mike gives this brilliant description of fighting: “When you’re emotionally opposed in whatever way, when you want different things and you either can’t communicate it properly or your interests are so conflicted that it spills into other things.” Ashley doesn’t like to communicate and Mike LOVES IT! Their common fight stems from Ashley being annoyed, Mike not knowing why, and him pestering her about it. This is because Mike was raised by all women and therefore he loves feelings and he loves chatting -- Ashley not so much. Their other fight is a SEX FIGHT! Learn all about how Ashley wants to have sex more than Mike does and the drama it creates (just kidding it doesn’t really create drama). We also talk about Matt and Naomi’s episode (Very Fast and Very Appropriate) check it out!!! The three of us also spend a significant amount of time fixing WHAT’S WRONG WITH THE INTERNET.